John Rowley: That’s a blessing, you wouldn’t have tried. After winning the National Championships, the natural progression was, like a lot of athletes do in this field, open your own gym, right? I had no clue what I was doing, I had no clue. “You’re not that guy, you’re not a champion, you can’t be Mr America.” I started wrestling with all that, man. It was just like “I’ve got a shot to really be this champion, not just compete for this championship, but actually be it, you know?” All this negative resistance came up. Coming back that 3rd year, because the 3rd year was certainly the most challenging for me in terms of winning that national championship, I ran into the greatest emotional, psychological obstacles, much more than I did the first or second year or so, because it was about validation.
Took me 3 to win it, 3rd place, 2nd place, and ultimately, let me tell you something, you talk about restoration and tenacity, not to blow my own horn in that respect, but it was a lesson, it was such a powerful lesson. I opened my first athletic club in New York in Long Island back in 1987, after winning the National Bodybuilding championships, the Mr America title, which I strived for for countless years. Tom Terwilliger: Geez man, I go … Certainly in terms of the fitness business, I go back many years. Give them the low down on you, times on the gym, blah blah blah, give them your bachelor. Tom Terwilliger: Good to be here man, I appreciate it. Tom Terwilliger: I’m good, I’m going to call you Johnny Boy, because is that what they used to call you in the neighborhood? He’s been kind enough to meet me here, we’re in the gym at the 4 seasons, which I think is appropriate for this interview.
Today I’ve got a great guest, old friend, we’ve known each other for a long time, we’ve reconnected in recent years through social media. John Rowley: Hi, this is John Rowley, welcome to UX3 Restoration Radio.
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